A reader recently sent me a thesis he wrote about correlations between astrology and autism. As many of you know, this is an area of interest to me and I have written on this before (the archive of autism posts can be found here). My reader quoted a few different sources which seem to correlate the synastry (comparison) between the chart of mothers and autistic subjects, such as the discussion in Elsa’s forum here. I responded to this idea with these thoughts:
I’m not so sure that you can draw a connection to autism via a lack of connection to the mother. It’s the old nature vs nurture argument. My personal belief (I am not a scientist in the field but since it doesn’t seem as though anyone knows I guess I can express an opinion based on years of astrological analysis) is that since we are born with certain charts, and our experiences echo that chart, that we pretty much come into this life fully formed and then magnetize the experiences that reflect the chart.
I’ve done a lot of work with families and the synastry between parents and children, and even siblings, is always revelatory. Those connections explain so much about the relationships between family members and are very valuable in understanding family dynamics. However, I’m not convinced that the synastry between mother and child is significant or that there are repeating patterns that can be relied upon. Also, in comparing the charts of the subject with the mother, you’re suggesting that it’s the relationship with the mother that causes the autism in the subject. And in arguing this point I’m not arguing the synastry, which is quite valid. But just as in my profiles of criminals, someone could have the same chart and NOT be a criminal, someone could have the same chart as your subjects and not possess the autism superpower. In your premise, autism has to do with emotional damage rather than, as I believe, a mutation of the human species.
I did find an old article I wrote quoting Sandra Weidner (I was unable to find her original article). Ms. Weidner states “Our physical bodies make it appear we are all equally here. We are not. Autistic children are one of the groups of people who are less here. Their physical bodies are here; their identities are considerably somewhere else. Most families of autistic children already know that. They just cannot explain why. Here, using this universal language of creation–astrology–it becomes understandable.” She goes on to say “The primal relationship [the mother/infant bond that allows the infant’s optimum development] is the ontogenetic basis for being-in-one’s-own-body, being-with-one’s-Self, being-together, and being-in-the-world.” (26) Paraphrasing [Erich] Neumann, the human infant is not fully incarnated–that is, he has a body, but not a consciousness suitable to orient and use it–until about one year after his birth.”
This hypothesis does suggest the possibility that a lack of connection between a mother and child could somehow interfere with this process of incarnation that is described by Ms. Weidner. And perhaps there are environmental factors that create that interference.
Still, any attempt to correlate certain astrological factors to autism will inevitably fail, just as we can’t accurate predict the moment of death, or whether two people will stay together. The charts of autistic individuals are as different as snowflakes. Some examples (complete with geeky astrological details):
- Temple Grandin: Saturn/Pluto conjunction in Leo opposite Aquarius Moon showing emotional stress and a tendency toward fearfulness; Pallas (divine intelligence unconnected to human mind) opposite Mercury/Sun/Venus conjunction. Some might say the Sun/Mercury conjunction (Cazimi) would debilitate Mercury (mind) but in my experience, clients with this placement are generally exceptionally intelligent rather than debilitated.
- Daryl Hannah: Moon in Gemini opposite Sagittarius Sun (Full Moon) with a tremendous curiosity to learn but both are squared by intense Pluto demanding transformation and letting go; highly sensitive Mars in Cancer opposed by Capricorn Saturn (repression) and by Capricorn Venus (difficulty forming strong connections); Chiron opposite Uranus (extremely sensitive energetic system leading to energy imbalances before achieving a healed state).
- Satoshi Tajiri (creator of Pokemon): born under the stressful combination of Uranus/Pluto in Virgo opposite Saturn/Chiron in Pisces which includes a wide conjunction of his Moon in Virgo to Pluto. This was a very difficult time (summer of 1965) in which to be born, and individuals with this alignment tend to have tremendous emotional chaos before hopefully finding an internal balance that helps them to become transformative influences in any realm. Mercury in Leo squared by Neptune suggesting a high degree of creativity. Again, Chiron opposite Uranus with that delicate energy system needing to come into balance.
Most of the famous people diagnosed publicly as autistic are on the mild end of the spectrum. If more data was available of more severely autistic individuals we might find more consistent correlations. However, if my hypothesis is correct and autism is more of a mutation than a disability, I doubt that any such correlation can be found.
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Dear Lynn,
Shortly after the birth of my first and only son Joseph, I was diagnosed with postpartum depression and was hospitalized for a month.
I did experience a disconnect with my son initially and he was diagnosed with Autism early on.
My son is now 27 and lives with me and we have a very close, loving connection.
I found this article interesting and will leave you with our birth data.
Thank you for all that you give 🙏
Sons birth data: 5/17/92 2:15 pm – Bethpage, N.Y.
Mother 8/10/54 4:11 pm – Queens, N.Y.
Hi Josephine, Joseph does have a powerful chart. First of all, he’s one of the Uranus/Neptune kids born during the early 1990s – they have a different way of looking at the world. They are super creative, and often have difficulty in school because they think so differently Most of them are highly intuitive as well. He has a Grand Trine in fire which includes his Moon, his relationship with you is a great stabilizer. However, your Pluto squares his Sun which echoes the opposition from Pluto in his chart to his own Sun which especially in a child can create tension between the child and the Pluto parent – in this case, you. There is a strong connection between you which is likely karmic in nature, and you both nurture each other and aid in each other’s healing process. ❤️
the son of a friend of mine is autistic and has severe anxiety too
born march 14 2015, in Ghent, Belgium, 6.35 am
This child has no Earth in his chart and will require help to ground and feel at home in his body. There is also a fair amount of anger (Uranus/Mars squared by Pluto) that will need to find an outlet, preferably through some kind of physical activity. Martial arts or something like that would be helpful for him, and also some kind of active sports.
thank you for your comment. There are mental health problems on both the father and mothers side of the family, depression, anxiety, they think that’s a factor, the genes. He has a very difficult childhood and could have six tantrums in a day. that’s a bit better now. He directs his anger towards his mother too. He’s not that strong, eating is difficult, he still sleeps a lot in the afternoon, but I will tell his mother about looking for an active outlet. When it all gets too much, they always go to the woods with the children to play, that’s relaxing for his mother and siblings too. He’s still very small, but they have tested him extensively
I am amazed by your insight! This article rings true at so many levels. My son Aaron was born May 29, 2013 at 5:46 am in Minneapolis, MN. Please do review his birth chart and please share your views with me. Many thanks! -Abby
Hi Abby, Thanks for your kind words! I’m unable to do personal readings in the comments, but you can get in touch with me and I’ll be glad to do a private consultation. Visit my website here for more information.
Hi my son is going through tests for autism he was born on the 18th of August 2017 at 10.50am by csection
Hi, I know I am late however I find it interesting that they boy and I have the same birthday March 14th and are autistic. Even though i’m 2002 and he’s 2015 still interesting because when I was in elementary school me and this one boy, Yako had the same birthday and he was also autistic. March 14th man, what is up with pi 3.14. Because it was also theorized that Albert Einstein was autistic and his birthday is also March 14th.
Thanks for your comments, Kaitlyn. However, there are lots of people born on March 14th and not all of them are autistic so I’m not sure you can make a correlation there.
4/25/76 9:02am Charlotte NC — Sun/Jup in 12th opp Ura; Mars/Sat conj in Cancer
Diagnosed?
M, there’s a Golden Yod in your chart.
Nep bQ Sun/Jup
Nep bQ Mars
Sun/Jup Q Mars
I am pretty high functioning and was diagnosed later in life.
3/21/71 – Laurel Hollow, NY, USA 12:13 am
Thanks for participating, Christine. There IS a difficult lunar placement, with Uranus squaring the Moon which can make it difficult to bond and feel safe emotionally. We often do see a challenging relationship with the mother under this aspect, although it can sometimes just be from the perspective of the child rather than an objective reality. I have also seen clients with mothers who were mentally ill with this aspect.
Yes, these things are true though I think the ASD is a separate issue. Thanks.
Hi Lynn,
here’s my birth info: july 23, 1986 (Long Beach, CA) 9:13am.
I was born with uranus in my 4th house in Sagittarius opposing chiron in gemini. Also mercury and sun exactly conjunct in 11th house. I’m very sensitive to stimuli, I went through years of internal conflict self-diagnosing myself with complex trauma and have difficulty opening up about these things. Let alone myself.
I’m now 33 and just now discovering that I am most likely on the spectrum and I’m hoping to receive an official diagnosis soon. I’m hoping to come to terms with myself because life def has not been easy since the beginning of the aquarian age.
-Gianni
I have traits of Aspergers and was born 7/31/56 at 6:56am in Chicago IL USA.
Hi Ambika, have you been officially diagnosed?
has taken me 67 years to learn to be an “earthling”. I provide a highly creative environment for autistic young people on an individual basis and feel a kinship with their kind of simultaneous faculties. I was born 6/ 23/52 in tulsa okla.
thank you,
your subjects are fantastic
http://www.elizabeth-berg.com
Thank you Elizabeth! I’m going to keep my analysis to people who have received official diagnoses for now. But I appreciate your taking the time to comment.
I’m so glad you’re helping to refute the harmful “refrigerator mothers cause autism” stereotype that has antagonized families for generations. I was a bed sharing, breastfeeding, baby wearing mom to my neuroatypical kiddo. His birthday is 11/27 2009 3:24PM in Chapel Hill NC. Like a lot of mothers of autistic kids, I had a difficult pregnancy and birth. To me, this supports the theory that autistic people struggle with their environments even before their first breath of life.
Hi Lara, your kiddo was born under the influence of the Chiron/Neptune conjunction. Children born during this time carry this imprint of soul healing and are likely to be exceptional. Your child’s conjunction also includes Jupiter which expands and inflates the necessity to find a balance between the soul and the purpose of the incarnation. The triple conjunction is in the sign of Aquarius, which is associated with a lack of typicality (is that a word??) in all things. It looks like your child has Taurus rising which is helpful because otherwise he would have no Earth in his chart, that Taurus ascended will help keep him from total ascension. :)
He also has a complex T-square involving Saturn and Pluto in difficult aspects to the Moon, which often suggest a child who has difficulty bonding in a way that builds a secure environment. This can be difficult for a mother who, like you, has done everything to maintain a close intimacy with a child who is basically wired to have difficulty in this area. I agree with you about the idea of autistic people struggling with their environments and suggests a karmic or fated quality to this. We are imprinted with the natal charts before anything ever happens to us, yet our experiences reflect the dynamics in the chart.
My very close one’s son was born in 2009 and diagnosed with Autism in near end of 2013.
Born on 19-11-2009 at 10.41 hrs at Gurgaon, India.
This is a fascinating discussion. My son has struggled with Asperger’s for years and is high functioning but still lives with me at the age of 32 and doesn’t seem capable of living on his own. When small, he had his own language and was able to voice my thoughts before I spoke them. We have had very close bond which seems to refute the theory you present. I agree about the fated or karmic quality and worry about what will become of him after I’m gone. His birthday is July 23rd, 1986 at 7:10 pm.
Hi Marie,
I have the same exact birthday as your son. It’s difficult being human, that’s for sure lol.
And yes, I still do live with my mom. Funny enough, her name is Maria!
And thanks for mentioning that you worry for him after you leave this plane. I’m crying a river right now in my car because I know my mom feels the same way about me. We don’t have the best relationship, but I know we’re both trying our best.
Lynn,
My grandson has been diagnosed with Sensory Processing Disorder – a form of autism.
Michael: 11/18/2005 10:15pm Cookeville TN
daughter Kris 12/27/1966 12:27pm Ft Lauderdale, Fl
I am so happy that you are looking into this. Being a single mother, this has been hard for my daughter and for all of us to actually understand what she deals with on a day to day basis.
Sandi
Lynn ,
late Asperger’s diagnosed daughter Vanessa : born in Rio de Janeiro´s Capital , July 25, 1972 at 09:50 am. When she was 6 years old an anthroposophic masseuse mentioned that she was not completely incarnated. ( interesting , ref. Neumann´s statement). Mine ( mother) . Ansbach – Germany, July 03 , 1948 at 01:30 am as per my birth certificate. Father undiagnosed but surely under this (functional)spectrum ( Borås, Sweden – Aug 03, 1945 – 11:10 am) ( as well as his father ( Vanessa´s grandfather))
Annegrit, Vanessa’s father was born one day before I was, so his chart is very similar to mine – and I HAVE been diagnosed. So there’s a strong possibility that he’s also on the spectrum.
My son (also diagnosed) was told by a homoeopath that he was not completely incarnated, as well.
My son is on the spectrum. Call him “GD” — he was born 11-27-1975 at 10:29 PM in Owen Sound, Ontario.
And FYI, the old “nature vs. nurture” debate re: autism was settled decades ago. People with autism have a different sensory processing make-up than the rest of us. The idea that ruptured relationships with mothers is the cause of autism has long been discredited.
My son, born 9 December 1980 @ 17:11 in Johannesburg, South Africa
Myself, born 4 August 1945 @ 15:35 in Erlangen, Germany
We were both professionally diagnosed with Aspergers syndrome (now known as HFA – High Functioning Autism) on 18 January 2011, at which time my son was 30 and I was 65.
We are anomalies in that some of our characteristics as unusual.
Hi Lynn…ur analysis is amazing…my son is autistic and we as parents are terribly worried. Can u plz look into his chart and guide us a way ahead.
Mivaann
DOB-12 JUNE 2016 @ 09:52 AM
KOLKATA, INDIA
THANKS
I am self-diagnosed, an official diagnosis is out of my reach. I found this article / thread from wondering if anyone had done any research on astrological correspondences with autism. I seem to kinda fit the pattern I’m seeing here.
I have two very tight T-squares, one (Uranus opposite Chiron) square Venus, another (Pluto opposite Mars) square Sun on the Descendant. I also have Saturn conjunct Sun and Uranus square Mercury with wider (5-6 degree) orbs.
Thanks for writing about this.
To me it seems that the connection between autism and lack of connection with one’s mother is probably, in many cases, due to the mother’s undiagnosed autism. It was Leo Kanner who coined the phrase “refrigerator mother” (OUCH, Leo!!), but some of the rest of his research is still accepted.
I have looked at very many charts of autistics and one pattern that seems to come up is of many planets crowded into a small portion of the chart, which fits quite well with the passionate one-note interests that many Aspergers show. Where most but not all of the planets are crowded together, the exceptions seem to be of Jupiter or Saturn, or sometimes both, which possible indicates a way for the subject to “escape” from their condition to a certain extent.
Also, sometimes there are two or three stelliums in separate areas of the chart.
Don’t forget that autistics are like snowflakes – each one is different. And this is just ONE type of pattern that I’ve seen, there must be many others.
Lynn, how glad I am that you broached this subject! I have learned so much, and feel part of some kind of autism community now.
I just recalled that Jamie Partridge of Astrology King associates autism with the fixed star Algol. He has posted about it on Darkstar as well.
I entered every single chart mentioned here into my Astrodienst database – there are altogether 19.
Of these 19 charts, 8 have something on Algol!
Quite a few charts have something on Aldebaran / Antares too, but I’ve never seen anything suggestive about these two “royal” stars as far as autism is concerned.
Thank you again for reviving this subject…
Thanks for participating in the discussion!!
My son was born on 28th November 2011 at 13:19 in Vellore, Tamilnadu , India (near Chennai ). I believe in horoscope and consulted an astrologer about good prospective birth time as I had a planned c section. He is 8 years old non verbal still. He is overall fine in behavior but has learning difficulties. He is diagnosed on severe end of autism spectrum. I am lost. I always wonder if he will be able to live an independent life?
Hi Isha, you’re story outlines why it doesn’t always work that well to plan a good birth time. He has a nice grand trine in Earth, and I don’t see anything out of the ordinary in his chart that would make me think this child would have such severe issues. He DOES have an unaspected retrograde Mercury, but that wouldn’t be enough to alarm me. Astrology doesn’t always tell the whole story – there are obviously other factors. But I CAN tell you that there is support in his chart to help him through these difficulties.
Thank you very much Lynn. Can you please tell me the planets involved in Grand trine In Earth element in his chart.
I appreciate your experience in this matter Lynn. As you pointed out that he has support in his chart to get through this, he might have. We both parents are Doctors and I am a child specialist to be precise.
For your reference our birth details are..
Mom. : born at 3:18 am on 13/01/1977 in Nagpur , maharashtra, India.
Father: born at 9:20 pm on 25/12/1974 in Nagpur, Maharashtra, India. We are not on the spectrum.
If you find any interesting pattern, I would love to note.
Hi Isha, this is getting a little involved for what I can do in the comments section. If you’d like to have a personal consultation just get in touch.
Jupiter, Mars, Venus/Pluto.
Hi Lynn,
I really appreciate your great work helping people. My son was diagnosed with autism around 4 yrs. His birth details are Name – Shawn, Dob – 17/4/2014, place of birth -Boston Massachusetts. Please help me is there any astrology issues or planets related to his condition. Thanks a ton.
Sandy, in all of these posts one thing is clear, there doesn’t seem to be any one thread that connects all of these cases. Your son’s chart lacks the element of water which bestows empathy and sensitivity, and he has a great deal of fire so he will need a lot of physical activity to channel all that energy. But plenty of other non-autistic people have these same dynamics. The astrology can help explain the nature of personality and how best to manage an autistic child, but we don’t seem to be able to explain autism astrologically.
My son is diagnosed. Born July 5, 2004 in Hartford CT.
My bday is 11/20/74 in Hartford CT
^edit to add he was born st 9:58 pm.
I was born at 6:30 am.
Hi Lynn,
Joseph was born 7:00a.m. on 11/19/2000. Autistic with some language, although not a preferred medium of expression, mostly hitting and other aggressions. Coming around, though…. An MRI showed a lesion in the left temporal lobe at age 7. Also Diabetes Mellitus 1. Thank you for your excellent and caring research. Susan
Danny, may 12, 2015, 12:00 boon exactly, Amstelveen, Netherlands. Diagnosed at 2,5 years after a 6 month special needs daycenter with autism. Was non-verbal at the time. I’m very curieus if you can pinpoint things with autism.
12th house stellium in Libra. Rising sign Scorpio – Sun sign Scorpio. Moon and south node in fourth house. I have been.diagnosed with everything you can think of
please tell us about our son yash who got some speech delayed problem and lack discipline.his dob is 06/02/2017 at 7.37am morning (monday) ar kolkata (westbengal,india)22.5726° N, 88.3639° E.please tell us whether he is autistic or not.
Son N: born Dec 7, 2016, 2:28am, Nashville TN
Mom M: born May 3, 1969, 2:30pm, Meridian MS
Maternal age is an obvious risk factor, of course. He has a first cousin who wasn’t officially diagnosed in 2005, but probably would have been by today’s standards. The sun/moon square in his chart worries me, as does his sun/Saturn conjunction. The t-square is all outer planets, so I expect that a lot of his age peers should feel the same influence. He’s a happy, affectionate kid so far, and had a language explosion just before turning three, although he’s still verbally delayed somewhat and seems to have some of the difficulties with concepts that are common with ASD. FWIW, he was full-term and healthy, although the birth was difficult, and we both had some minor complications; he was breastfeed into toddlerhood and coslept in or beside our bed, so while we didn’t do absolutely everything in attachment parenting, he’s always been highly connected to us. There were no signs of autism until his second year, and those were subtle at first.
Hi Lynn,
My daughter has been professionally diagnosed with Autism. She is now 3 year 4 months old, and still not able construct her own sentences. She seems to be very intelligent, and has a very good memory! She can count from 1 to 20, and can very well label things, e.g. if she sees a picture of an object in book, she can label that object in real world and usually speaks out the name of the object. She is always babbling words: one word, two words, three words etc. She repeats words and sentences she hear from others, and even ask for things she wants by one or two words but never by a complete sentence. We as parents are very concerned about her. Here is her birth detail: Birth Date: 09/16/2016, Birth Time: 12:39 AM, Birth Place: Green Bay, Wisconsin, USA. Please reveal any astrological symbolism for her autism, and if and when she will overcome her autistic symptoms. Any suggestions/recommendations are most welcome!
Thanks,
Parents
Hi Lynn,
I would be interested in a personal consultation for my daughter. For your reference, I am repeating my daughter’s birth detail:
Birth Date: 09/16/2016, Birth Time: 12:39 AM, Birth Place: Green Bay, Wisconsin, USA.
She has been professionally diagnosed with Autism. We as parents are very concerned about her.
Thanks SSA, I will email you.
Thanks everyone for commenting – unfortunately I am unable to do chart readings for so many people in the context of a comments section. I’m happy to offer a personal consultation to those of you who would find that helpful.
Hello,
I would be interested in a personal consultation. I was diagnosed autistic a couple of years ago, at age 50. I am adopted, and have sometimes described my life as a bad version of a Dickens novel. I have always had an, shall we say, auxiliary interest in astrology. I can often guess people’s signs,and have way to much insight into them which tends to disturbs them, of course, but I am no astrologer, at least not in this life. I have had my chart read, but not for many, many years. I have come to a very difficult period in a life that’s been full of difficulties. I really need some help moving forward. I have been perusing astrology sites recently, hoping I could find some insight, and stumbled onto this one when I decided to see if autism could be identified in the chart. I would be grateful for a reading. I will look for a link for personal consultations.
Thanks Ana, I sent you an email. ❤️
Dear my son yash is diagnosed with autism in mild to moderate .teat results are yet to come.he makes eye contact but not for long.he listens to commands and tries to speak .he walks normally not on toe.his date of birth is 06 February 2017 at 7am 37 minute’s and 58 seconds in kolkata.westbengal india.he is 3 years old.will he be study and grow up like other kids .indont want him to be a good human being.please help and see
HELLO, LYNN, Here is DOB of my cousin :27/12/2005 8:19:38 A.M. in Bharatpur, Nepal, (co-ordinates of Kathmandu, Nepal can be used I guess). He has been diagnosed of Autism like 7yrs back. He cannot speak properly. Any remedial action can be performed to make him better? Do you see any chances of him being better?.
Thank You.
Hi Lynn, my son now is 10 diagnosed with high functioning autism when he was 4. Well he was diagnosed with sematic pragmatic disorder because they think he might have autism..they told me his is grey area or case do not have sure diagnosis…it’s very frustrating to get Andrews..I am still.finding out what’s going on with my son..his name is Archit, born in August 28, 2009 in Edison NJ at 7.37 am Friday. Thank you for your work in this topic..appreciate it.
Me. December 12 1989
06:21 am.
Charlotte NC
I’m sorry Krista but I’m unable to do readings in the comments section of this blog.
Hi My son is diagnosed for autism. Date of birth is 20th November 2012. When will he talk. We’re awaiting for long. Please predict…….